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Old Jun 22, 2009, 04:23 PM // 16:23   #141
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 04:54 PM // 16:54   #142
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1: Why would I go an give a thumbs up to something I don't agree with? Don't think that just because people give me a reason I have to agree with that. Maybe I don't think it's a valid reason or maybe I don't think it's reason enough...
Than by all means, feel free to explain the lack of validity in my post, because I can guarentee you are wrong...
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Then why was UB nerfed? Why are people screaming for a nerf to PermaSin? If these are the most effective and efficient ways to accomplish the goal, then there's no need for any nerfing as these were/are the most effective builds in the game and every team should be running them.
Being effective and being imbalanced are 2 completely different things...
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 05:28 PM // 17:28   #143
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While testing builds is generally not entirely frowned upon, the skill bars you are coming up with are appearing as "joke builds" to the PUGs you are joining. As a warrior, any time someone sees Mending on the bar, it's an instant WAMMO alarm and people don't want you. Also, based on your post, I am pretty sure you are not a newb, noob, or anywhere near unintelligent, you just want to have fun playing bars that are not mainstream and progress at the same time.

With that, it is okay to test bars, but make sure you are using skills which are not outdated for general PvE use, such as Mending. Restrict your test bars to trying out different elites, but not to the point where it's a joke "Oh, I bet I can beat HM with my echo frenzy build lololol" is the message you are giving off to people in your PUGs.

Based on your Arborstone bar, perhaps they were looking for more damage-oriented builds than tanking. Warriors are great for PvE and PvP, but a lot of their focus should be on damage unless otherwise specified, such as in The Deep where they are to hold many of the foes or in farming situations. Keep testing bars, but don't get discouraged. If they kick you for having a test bar, have a real bar to back you up so you can still go and finish and save the test bar for later. When a team is purely BYOB and doesn't matter what you have, then you bring your test bar.

If it gets you through, then good game -- if not, that is setting you up for another set of insults. Gaming people get bored with doing the same thing over and over again unless it is self-rewarding, such as farming. Redoing missions or runs are not the same however, so they expect success.

What a great post. Insightful and respectful to the OP. I wish more people would post like this instead of attacking others.

For me personally when I join a PUG for a Zmission or bounty I would prefer that people take builds that are proven to work. My time for playing is limited because I have a kid. So I would much rather you take a build that works so we complete the mission the first time instead of wasting my time by Failing the mission because you decided to test a new build.

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Old Jun 22, 2009, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #144
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I'm pretty sure this thread has run it's course and is just turning into an off topic +1 fest.

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